In a Sunday night interview with The Record, a New Jersey newspaper, Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway reaffirmed her assertion that Trump Tower was wiretapped by some means.

“There are many ways to surveil each other,” she said. “There was an article this week saying that you could surveil someone through their phones, certainly through their television sets, any number of different ways.”

“And microwaves,” she added. “turned into cameras, so we know that this is just a fact of modern life.”

Discussing the alleged wiretap of Trump Tower by former president Barack Obama, Conway did not offer specific evidence that the president or his staff had been wiretapped. Her reference to surveillance through phones and televisions came as a reference to last week’s document leak which confirmed the CIA had the capability to do so.

During a followup interview Monday morning with CNN’s Chris Cuomo, Conway again declined to offer any specific evidence to support her claims.

“I’m not Inspector Gadget,” she said. “I don’t believe people are using the microwave to spy on the Trump campaign. I’m not in the job of having evidence. that’s what investigations are for.”

On “Good Morning America,” Conway denied that her claims were about Trump Tower at all, stating that she was referring to “surveilling generally.”

“But you have no evidence?” George Stephanopoulos asked.

“I have no evidence,” Conway replied, “but that’s why there’s an investigation in Congress.”

The House Intelligence Committee, which is investigating Trump’s wiretapping claim, has asked the White House for specific evidence to substantiate this claim by the end of the day. Trump has not yet submitted this evidence.

Refined Right did a cursory search for a microwave oven containing an outward-facing camera or microphone and could not find one. Conway could have been referring to a microwave camera, which works in a similar fashion as an infrared camera.

The first mention of a camera in a microwave appears to have come from “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert” last Tuesday, in which former CIA director Michael Hayden was asked if the CIA could spy through a microwave oven. Hayden denied this was possible.